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April 19, 2007

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D

Love It!

I posted a link to this fabulous post!My Hero!!


Kim

Thank you!!! I'm thinking I should write a similar letter. Ms. Boxer is my senator as well. My husband and I rent, we have owned in the past and lost money. We knew it was risky and only had our selves to blame when it didn't work out. I didn't look to the government for bailout. Nor do I expect them to help me out of renting now, which by the way we do by choice so as not to be house poor. I agree that predatory marketing did not help the situation, but people should definitely be more educated and less susceptible to wishful thinking when they are making the biggest investment of their lives. I could not agree more with your letter, well said!!

TFB

That's a great letter. Prudent renters and buyers were shut out by the profit driven bidders. They actually will benefit from foreclosure because they will walk away paying less than what they owe. "Heads I win, tails you lose" is not the American way.

Bronco

Way to go! We need as many peoplel voicing their outrage as possible.

MoneyDummy

It sounds like a great, well-written letter. I'd like more information: what are the bailout measures that are being proposed, and what are the problems with them?

I've not been following this debate.

NoFreeLunch

Bravo well said!

If they had made money with the house, would they pay some back to the government? Hell no!

When the renters 'lost' money when they didn't buy and get into the appreciation ponzi scheme, did they ask the government for help?

I have no sympathy for any adults who either:

1) are the "innocent" types that claim they didn't know what they got into when they sign LEGAL documents. Treat this as your life lesson...

2) are the "savvy" types who used no-doc loans as leverage in their real estate gamble. They are lucky they won't go to jail...

c

My sentiments exactly. I don't think it wise to start messing around with the free market economy. When there's the possibility of make a ton of $, there is also risk. The government shouldn't just erase that risk.

rhbee

Oddly enough, we appear to have become a nation of people that expects to be bailed out, or at the very least, be televised crying about how awful we feel that we lost out when the bubble burst. Meanwhile, the buyer buzzards are now circling the foreclosure market hoping to make a meal off of someone else's disaster.

financial freedumb

Well said. LMG, you are a gifted writer.

I agree. The worst thing government can do is bailout the people who, unfortunately, went in over their heads.

Ultimately, the responsibility lies with the folks who signed for the loan regardless of how much they consider themselves "victims." Now if people were flatout lied to and deceived...that's another story.

Anyway, SHAME on the companies that took advantage of the situation. They should be punished. They know better.

Back to the bailout, who ends up footing the bill? Everyone...And I wouldn't be surprised if the fallout from a bailout is another set of "victims." This time due to the government trying to save one group of people, hurting a bunch of other people.

Deborah

I like seeing an opportunity to comment on this. Here is a piece I wrote on this topic a couple months ago. If they do something in law, it should be to prevent this kind of stupidity.

I worked in banking I saw first hand the devastation of a local housing bubble we had here in BC in the late 70s, early 80s.

I remember the loans officer joking at the time that you needed a husband, wife and mistress to qualify for a mortgage. That was at the height of our bubble, when housing prices had gone up more in BC than any where else in Canada, just in time for that enormous interest rate spike. I worked in bank and saw people lose their homes.

It was while working in banking that I first started studying the enormous power of compound interest and all the effects of changing rates on mortgage payments.

I'm not sure how it came about, but in Canada low down payment mortgages had to be insured after that, so a 5% down mortgage also costs 2.5% mortgage insurance. This isn't to protect the consumer, but more the banks.

Legislation that would protect the consumer would be lending laws that limit the amount a consumer can borrow based on a fixed evaluation of income, down payment, amortization period and interest rates.

I have a 4.4% interest rate mortgage.

Qualifying for a mortgage should not be based on current interest rates. The leverage of the potential increase in payments is utterly enormous when interest rates are down, and the amount of money people quality for at low interest rates is insane. I qualified for 127% more mortgage that I borrowed for interest rates at 4.4%. If they'd been 3%, well, then I'd have qualified for 233% more than I borrowed.

Qualifying for a mortgage should be based on being able to afford the payments with 30% of your income with 25% down and 8% interest for a 25 year mortgage. I'd have actually only qualified for 15% more than what I borrowed with that criteria.

So, then comes the fudging factor. Zero down loans are fine, if you afford them with 30% of income at 10% interest. I'd actually have maxed out my borrowing power without a down payment using this criteria.

And there's nothing wrong with having it go the other way, say 30% of income at 6% if you have 50% down. Under this criteria I would have qualified for about 65% more mortgage that I took based on the interest rate, but I would not have qualified for this measure because I did not have half down.

The actual term of the mortgage should be based on the criteria given. You have a 25 year mortgage at 8%, but with current interest rates you will pay it off in x-years.

Anyway, I've gone on for years that allowing these mortgages shouldn't be allowed, and indeed, even with our stronger laws, I think a lot of people are probably still going to find they are in big trouble even in Canada. I can't imagine having had a mortgage more than double what mine started at and facing an interest rate increase.

Check out the following blog for an excellent read, http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/"

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