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September 20, 2006

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Charles

When you win or lose is not a factor. In other words, losing early is not any better than losing late as seems to be the case in the human polls. Also, if you beat a team early when they were ranked in the top 10 in the human polls, then they descend into a 5 loss team, you get credit for beating a 5 loss team.

For most computer polls this seems to be the norm (i.e. quality win points for BCS). Why not modify it a bit (or do a second calculation) so that the team's W/L record when you beat them is what is held through for the rest of the season? Say two teams, #1 & #4 come into a game both 4-0. #4 wins and goes on to have an undefeated season while #1 slumps, loses three in a row and ends up 7-5. Should the (former) #4 be punished at the end of the season because they contributed to the mental and physical demoralization of former #1? College teams are rarely the same team from beginning to end - so why take into account later games?

Or... you could play with that formula even more - what about the importance of bouncing back from a loss? If you played a truly good opponent, they would win their next time around.

Just some thoughts...

lamoneyguy

Charles, I have played with the idea. I'm pretty handy with a spreadsheet, but I found that that additional input required an insane amount of additional formula writing.

Charles

I understand completely - I'd suggest using Access or some other database to play around with. The adjustments wouldn't be so bad.

lamoneyguy

Hey Charles,
It's also a conceptual problem. How much weighting to I assign to how good the teams appeared at the time, versus how they actually were. I'm going to tinker with that a little and see how it changes the resulte. However, I won't make any permanent changes until after the season.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Charles

You're welcome - let me know if you need someone to bounce ideas off of.

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